How The Creation and The Human Body Interact

Baba ji explained about how the other realms effect our mind.  Baba ji always says that Brahmanday and Pinday are connected.  Meaning the Creation-body connection, that the Creation effects the body and vice-versa.  For example, Albert Einstein once said that Man looks out at the Universe and thinks he is separate from it!  However Einstein was just looking at it from the physical point of view, that our physical body is made up from the same stuff that makes up the physical Universe we see out there.  However, Baba ji goes much further than this, showing that our spirit is also interwoven with the spiritual realms out there.   So to explain further as we understand from Baba ji:

 

When God made the creation, there were actually 14 bangs of Creation as Baba ji put it.  Each one brought into existence one realm , parallel universes.  So if the sun is red in the realm of hell.  We have yellow sun on Earth and in heaven (realm of devi-devtas/shiva/brahma/vishnu) there is a blue sun. 

 

So each of the realms in the universe are operating right now in parallel to us in this physical Earth universe.  And people who can Astral travel (soul leaves body in meditation), can visit these realms.  So people here on Earth call those parallel universes the spiritual realms. [ A devotee asked Baba ji to bless one of her friends who was completely depressed, Baba ji paused to assess his soul and answered, “he is suffering because he has been travelling to other realms and doing bad deeds, misusing his ability.  So if God allows you to travel to these other parts of His Creation, don’t misuse the gift.”]

 

Baba ji said that, if someone is a devotee of Shiva, when they go into Samadhi they see him sitting on the throne in his heaven.  When someone worships a Devi-Devta (330 million lesser gods), they have their Darshan (vision), and these lesser beings love being worshipped because they are weak and hence keep their devotees in wants and wishes to become stronger.  How?  When you pray for wants and wishes, you are giving your Amrit( life energy) to these Devi-Devtas and they enjoy it for themself instead of passing it back to God.  And you lose your Amrit – become weaker and fall further from God with in yourself.  Baba ji also added that these lesser gods are also nasty in how they keep people worshipping them.  They even possess some of their devotees.  For example, Deepa, another blessed devotee in the sangat, comes from a family who go to Baba Balak Nath’s place in India.  Deepa’s aunt has been possessed by the spirit of Baba Balak Nath for many years.  Although the family think that is a good thing, because when her head rolls and she goes into a trance state, they get direct messages from Baba Balak Nath.  And he wasn’t happy when Deep astarted doing SatNaam.  Deepa was blessed by Dassan Dass ji in India a few year ago.  And as normal with family he went to Baba Balak Nath’s temple, but hada feeling NOT to bow to the priest.  Instead he sat and did SatNaam Simran.  When he got home, his aunt started channelling for Baba Balak Nath. The whole family was gathered and the spirit of this lesser god was very angry that Deepa didn’t bow to the priest whom he was possessing as well.  Afterwards, the family severely rebuked Deepa, but even though he is only a teenager, in an India village, where elders are respected and people are not so educated and their way is the only way in the family, he stuck to the Truth, that he was only doing Bhagti of SatNaam now, no one else.  Family didn't like it, but couldn’t do anything about it either.

Baba ji added that he frees followers of these lesser gods.  For example, one devotee could not get out of the grip of Kali Mata.  He was born to her, in her realm in his very first life.  But, he had managed to escape from her grips in that realm.  However, for millions of years his souls has been evolving up the ladder of consciousness, bu yet in every life the realm of Kali Mata influences and tormented his mental well being.  No matter what he did for all these previous lifetimes he could not get out of her grip.  And even though n this human life he was born ahead of the Devi-Devtas in terms of having far superior spiritual powers than them, he was still trapped due to his ego and arrogance, thinking those powers made him superior and better than everyone else – mere mortals.  And even though in a past life he was a devotee of the great Sant Baba Nand Singh ji, he slandered him and was cursed with severe physical ailments.  So in this life, his prayers were heard by Dassan Dass ji and Baba ji.  Baba ji said that neither did Baba Nand Singh, nor Guru Nanak nor Guru Gobind Singh ji come to save him, even though he was praying at the Gurdwara all this life.  Only the Sant of the moment did that.  Baba ji said, to him, “you are free now,” and gave him a place in Sach Khand.  Baba ji added that, even though he has now become a Sant, he can still fall back.  He needs to stay humble, lowest of the low and not think he has become something.  [Note: Many have fallen even after experiencing union with God and seeing all of the God's palaces.  Why?  Baba ji said they went too high too quickly.  They still hadn't conquored their ego, so when the tests came, the lost faith in their Guru and slandered Baba ji in order not to lose their respect in society.  Namjeevan ji told us that even in God's realm, Baba ji has a small hut full of worms for his abode, she said he leaves the palaces for others.  Baba ji told us the first time we met him, not to go after spiritual experiences but just to focus on beating our five thieves, especially ego, in the battlefield of living out our Karma with the people around us.  Baba ji said he only says to God, "why do I need to go to spiritual realms to see You, when I can see you in every heart here on Earth."]
   

But, all of  these people who are worshipping these lesser beings in various heavens, all the way down to worshipping the Devil or Kali Mata in the hell realm, all think that their realm is SUPREME.  They  don’t realise that above hell and heaven is the highest Truth, SAT.   Even though it seems obvious to us.  It’s not to them.  For example, a while back we had an email from a very devoted Hindu lady who worshipped Vishnu all her life as that is the way she was brought up.  But as she became really serious in her path, the thought came to her, “but who created Vishnu?”  And that was the beginning of her journey to Truth that brought her to the Satnaam.info website.  So millions are stuck in worshipping lesser gods thinking they are the Supreme God(ParBrahm).  That is why Baba ji said, “I have added SAT (TRUTH) infront of PARBRAHM, to remove any illusions about who is really the Supreme God.”  SAT PARBRAHM means that TRUTH is the SUPREME GOD.

 

Baba ji said the Seva he has been doing for quite a while now is regularly visiting these lesser gods including Shiva and draining them of all the Amrit they have stolen for themselves and giving it back to Sat ParBrahm.

 

We asked Baba ji, “what does that mean to drain them?”

 

Baba ji replied, “that means they are becoming weaker.  So when a Shiva worshipper goes into Samadhi now and astal travel to his heavenly realm, they will see Shiva on the throne looking thin and weak.  And then the question will pop up in the worshipper's mind, but if Shiva is Supreme, then who made him weak?”

 

And then the journey of their soul to Truth will continue.

 

Baba ji also recounted the time that a Devi (female lesser god)  came to him and asked for forgiveness for getting herself worshipped.  So he forgave her right away and let her soul go to the Light (Sundar Nagari – Baba ji’s place in Sach Khand , from where the soul will be reborn as human and destined to receive Naam).   And in this world, Baba ji said her followers would realise that they don’t see her anymore in their visions, that their wants are no longer being fulfilled and then they will stop worshipping her, and her temple will crumble and she will be forgotten.

 

Not only that, Baba ji said he also saves her followers, they also come under his Charan Saran (Shelter of His lotus feet) , so he is internally guiding them now to SAT.

 

That's just some of the Seva that Baba ji is doing in the other realms.

 

We then asked Baba ji, “but if you get rid of Shiva, then wont the whole universe collapse?  Don’t we need the Destructive energy as well Creative energy (Brahma) and Balancer (Vishnu) to run the Universe?”

 

Baba ji replied, “I am only weakening him, not getting rid of him.”  (BTW Baba ji said once that Shiva is only about three foot high, looks qute small in reality, although the image the followers and painting give is of a fierce giant.)

 

We asked, “so how does that effect us?”

 

Baba ji said, “Shiva and his realm in the universe, is connected to the mind of every being.  That is why one energy running our mind is the destructive one.”  That is why Baba ji calls it the Shiva side of the mind.  Brahma's realm is connected to the constructive side of our mind, and Vishnu's realm is connected to the preserver/balanced/neutral side of our mind.

 

So, when Shiva himself becomes weak in his realm, the consequences are that the destructive side of every being's mind in the whole Creation (all realms) is also weakened as well.

 

Which means, that on a personal level, we find that our five thieves are less active and negative thoughts are reduced.  Hence, negative emotions and negative actions go down in the world.  The whole world cools down, makes it easier for people to do good deeds, receive the grace, find the Truth, and make this world into Satyug – Age of Truth (as opposed to the extreme Age of Darkness we are in – Maha Kalyug as Baba ji calls it.  Baba Nanak Ji came when it was pretty bad in Kalyug, now we are at the extreme end of Kalyug where the majority of people’s consciousness is so low.   Even though we have modern technology, but the majority of people are doing really bad deeds now and are so far from God and slandering and even killing the Sants.)

 

So then we realised that Sach Khand - realm of Truth, as well as being out there in a parallel universe, is also the highest part of our own consciousness - Truth Consciousness and exists in every soul as well, wether its a human, animal or plant, insect or even alien.  If they have a soul, they have the Sach Khand part in them as well.   However, Baba ji once told us, its only as a human being, that we have the ability to go to the Sach Kahnd part – to self-realise – to become TRUTH CONSCIOUS. Because only in the human body can we “bust the trikuti” as Baba ji put it.  Meaning, the third eye and tenth gate open, allowing us to transcend Maya. 

 

And that is the part we want to get to within ourself, and the ones who do then start experiencing the outer realm of Sach Khand as well when the atral travel, and is why Namjeevan and other all see the same visions in Dargah.  [Note: And recently Namjeevan and other blessed souls meet up in Dargah – God’s realm of Truth, every night in Samadhi.  They pray to God-Guru and then travel to the lower realms like Hell to fight the most evil, arrogant souls that live there and free the weak souls (of women and children) who are trapped in that consciousness.]

 

Then lower than Sach Khand – realm of Truth, is the heavenly realms of  Shiva , Brahma and Vishnu out there in the parallel universes, but also are connected to the three parts of our mind within us.

 

Then lower than that is the heavens of the 330 million Devi-Devtas who have their own parallel universe as well –commonly known as heaven.   But,  Baba ji said that they are also within the human mind as every single conceivable hope, wish ,desire, expectation and want a human mind can ever possible imagine.  That’s why there are so many millions of them – human wants are immense.

 

Then lower than that is lower consciousness, realm of Hell.  So hell is out there in a parallel universe, but is also connected to our mind and hence can be the state of  mind someone is in e.g. when they commit suicide.  Baba ji explained to us once, “what does a Muslim suicide bomber think he will get after death?  He maybe dreaming of virgins and paradise, but before death if his mind was in hell, and he sowed mayhem by his suicide bombing, then only the realm of Hell is waiting for his soul on the other side.”  Another example, is of one devotee, who allowed himself to get consumed by lust, even knowing it one of the thieves we need to battle with.  He fisrtly started watching porn, then more hardcore porn. Then he wanted the real thing, so stayed up late on adult forums, were he would arrange to meet women who were looking for sexual encounters as well.  He met with one women, stayed the night, but next morning when she looked at him, he felt it wasn't her but some "other" destrucitve energy.  He couldn't explain it, but felt something take over his mind.  He ran out of the house, mind in a blurr. He drove wrecklessly and pulled over, he desparately tried to call members of the sangat, and got some relief from talking to them.  However, he found himself dreaming of hell and unable to get out.  His mind was completely shattered when he finally got throught to Baba ji and confessed his misdeeds.  Baba ji told him, tell those ghosts that you do not belong in their realm.  Baba ji then freed him and told him to recite Chaupai prayer (for protection) as well as doing his SatNaam simran, and to have absolutely no more contact with that women, or web forums etc of that hell consciousness.   He learned his lesson, but still it took a while for his mind to become clean and regain its balance.  We remember he came around our house a few days after the torment started and he was no longer his happy, bubbly self.  But, looked like he had been completely drained and was lost in his own hell.  He leanred the hard way.  Baba ji says we have to get out of desires.  Either we give them up, or we pursue them 100% until we get sick and tired of them and do such an Ardas, "God save me from the hell I'm now in."  Then that desire will no longer have any attraction for us - wether its for drinking or for women or whatever.

And within the hell realm is the male destructive energy– Devil (Pootna), and female destructive energy - Kali Mata.

 

Within us, Baba ji said, “the Devil/Kali Mata represent all of the really evil dark forces within our own psyche.  When we do Bhagti (spiritual labouring), we start off in the lowest part of our consciousness and have to work our way up through all these levels.  We have to beat them as it’s all part of conquering the mind – munn jeetay.”

 

That is why Baba ji said that at one stage in his Bhagti the Devil came and said, "just follow me and I'll make Bhagti so easy for you." And Baba ji replied aggressively,  "I don’t need anything from you!   I will break your knees and smash you into the ground rather than do anything for you, as my Bhagti is for God only – absolutely for NOBODY and NOTHING ELSE.”

 

We asked, “what does it mean the Devil (Pootna) came to you?”  Baba ji replied, “it means all of my own darkest, lowest , most evil aspects.”

 

When God, the Supreme Soul split himself up into numerous souls, he created this ladder of consciousness, and placed each soul (himself) at the bottom. 

 

That means our soul, according to its consciousness, has been taking birth in those realms and life forms that match our level of consciousness at the time of reincarnation.  And as we live each life, each good deed we do raises our consciousness.  Bad deeds lower it.  That is why Baba ji always stresses for us to concentrate on our deeds.  No matter what we are pursuing in life, for example, wealth, if we only think making money is the target then we can and do become corrupt.  But, if we realise money wont go with our soul, only our deeds, then we will only earn our living by fair means.  And Bhai Gurdas Ji wrote that when the religious people asked Baba Nanak who is closer to God, Hindus or Muslims? Baba Nanak replied that without good deeds no one goes to God.  

 

Sikhs read in Japji  Sahib every day , “Karmee apo apanee ke neray ke dhoor – our deeds are our own – some go nearer to God, others further away.”  We said to Baba ji once about the arguments at Gurdwaras about whether people should sit on the floor or at tables to have langar?  And Baba ji just said, “It’s not about where you sit, it’s ALL about keeping your deeds high.  So get out of all these religious illusions that anything other than your deeds is pleasing God or going to go with you.”  We remember that there were fights at Gurdwaras due to people arguing about sitting at tables or on the floor.  They didn’t realise that their hatred towards each other was going to go with their soul, not the fact they won the battle of sitting on the floor and somehow God would be pleased they upheld an ancient tradition from a different time and place.

 

Baba ji then went on to explain more about the five thieves within us.  They are called thieves because when we indulge in them they use up our life-force, the Amrit, so eg after an angry argument we feel completely drained.  They are also from the destructive side of the mind i.e. Shiva side.  They are ego/pride, lust, anger, selfish attachment and greed.  Baba ji always says that ego and pride are the two horns of the Devil.  So if you let ego and pride fill you up to the head, then they are your horns and you are the devil.  Baba ji has said that the Pope and most politicians and religious leaders are all the Devil in disguise.  Looking respectable on the outside, but Baba ji can see them from the inside, that they are full of ego and pride, hence are the devil.  Infact, in Gurbani, Guru Nanak Dev ji says that the one who is consumed by the five thieves is the real Satan.

 

Baba ji continued about the five thieves, saying they are called thieves only while we are living under the influence of Maya.  [Maya is like a fairground of this world and while we have wants, we love to go on the rides and enjoy them.  The root cause of the wants and desires are the five thieves. They are putting those thoughts and passions into us, to drive us forward into Maya’s web.   But, we may enjoy the rides at first and experience heavenly joy, but then we get sick and tired of them and experience the hell side of them as well.  Then if we are blessed, we will pray to God, “Get me out of here please, I only want you know, the Creator of this fairground of Maya.]

 

So whilst under Maya, the five are called thieves and are detrimental to our spiritual progress.  However, from God, the Creator’s point of view, they are His very beautiful and important Creation and are actually his five beloved ones i.e. the real PANJ PYARE (as opposed to the Sikh religious leaders).  Why are they beloved of God?  Because, firstly they are rock-solid, 100% committed servants of His.  They are unwavering at carrying out SAT PARBRAHM’s command – Hukam.   For example, we know that God has created the Law of Karma, which means we reap as we have sown, so that is why good deeds are essential, so we reap good in future.  So actually, how do we reap what we have sown?  For example, when we see someone we are attracted to, our lust may get arouse, then we have thoughts to meet that person and get to know them , so we do those actions and have interactions with that person.   But, Baba ji has said that our soul was already connected to that person from the past.  We have past karma with them.  To make us meet with them again in this life as per God’s Law of Karma, desire is required.  So the lust thief come into operation, puts the desire within us, like a carrot on a stick. And we are the donkey who just follows it and plays it out.

 

Baba ji said, firstly the five thieves keep us a slave to them.  But, when we do SatNaam Simran, then that is their Source as well, so they have to let us pass.  They then report back to SatNaam as to how we are fairing against them.  When we defeat them , they just let us pass and serve us.  We can’t kill them as they are required for human life, but they serve the Sant  (e.g.  The Sant uses controlled lust to have a baby.  The Sant uses controlled anger to fight against injustice, Guru Gobind Singh ji wrote ‘jaby ban lagiyo, tabee ros jagio – when the enemy arrow struck his belt, then anger arose.’  The Sant may collect Daswandh – money, but is not a slave of greed, but using it for higher purpose of freeing us from greed. ]  Baba ji said that a Christian once said to him that he sees five men dressed in black in his vision - that was the five thieves.  But, later after beating the five thieves, he said to Baba ji , "I see five wise men dressed in white with hands pressed together in respect towards me."  Baba ji said now they are Panj Pyare for you - your five beloved servants.

 

Baba ji finished off by saying all these forces in the fourteen realms  are also running our mind.  Which then result in the thoughts we get and show up as the attitude we wear on our face.  And a miserable face is the result of negative thinking due to the negative forces within us.  Wereas a person who has defeated all of these forces, has conquered their mind, has had their mind replaced by the PARAM JYOT – SUPREME SOUL, and is overflowing with Amrit.  All of their Chakras are connected to the Realm of Truth – Amri is overflowing ni them.  They are physically connected to this realm – Earth and the Universe.  But, spiritually connected to SAT PARBRAHM, and He is flowing through each ckakra in their astral body, overflowing as Amrit into their physical body, shining bringht as Light on their face and spilling out of their hands and feet to heal the ones they touch and they ground they step on.  Gurbani says, “Jithay jai bahay mera satguru so than suhaava ram rajay .. meaning 

Wherever my Satguru goes and sits,
that place becomes pure. 
The Guru’s Sikhs go to that place
and apply the dust to their forehead. 
The spiritual labouring of those Guru’s Sikhs is accepted
who meditated upon God’s Name. 
Nanak says:  those who worshipped the SatGuru,
then God makes them also worshipped.”


So the one who has conquored the mind has actually conquored all 14 realms that exist within them (LOK) and in spiritual realms (PARLOK).  That is why that one is known as "chaudah lok parlok ka malik" - "Master of all 14 worlds here and beyond." Baba ji said that when SAT PARBRAHM laughs within him, that laugh resonates in all 14 parallel universes.  Meaning SAT is the highest Truth everywhere, wether beings in those realms deny Him or not.

As a soul in this Earth realm we have the choice of either chasing after Maya's comforts, inflating our ego (self-worship), or worshipping lesser gods (devi-devta, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu etc).  All three of these options are less than worshipping the TRUTH - SAT PARBRAHM.  And SAT is fully manifested in the hirdha (heart chakra) of the divine souls, that is why their hirdha is known as the SAT GURU.   So worship the SAT GURU.  Guru Arjun Dev ji says, "Gur Jaisay nahee ko dev. Jis masthak bhaag so lagaa sev." Meaning, that no lesser god is equivalent to the SAT GURU, but only the ones who have that destiny written on their forehead will be able to find and serve the SAT GURU.

We hope this article has shed some light upon how high SAT PARBRAHM is, and why we call upon His Name - SAT NAAM, rather than any lesser god, maya or our own name in ego.  So serving your SAT GURU, is the highest service in all 14 parallel universes.  And Dassan Dass ji has always said to us that the highest Seva is to remember His name all the time, so do Sat Naam Simran.  Baba ji also said there are two ways to get rid of ego and hence complete the journey of our soul, a) do so much SatNaam Simran b) do so much seva.   Do so much Seva and Simran that you completely forget about yourself, you just live for others , you just live for SatNaam, you just see your SatGuru in every heart, in everything.

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QUESTION:  So when we have bad thoughts whilst doing Simran, what should we do?

 

REPLY: When we have bad thoughts, recognise that is from our lower consciousness, recognise it but dont act upon it.  Recognise it, put it in a bubble and blow it out to the universe and come back to Satnaam Satnaam.  Just keep doing ardas all day long that Dassan #Dasss ji gave us as well, "I am full of the five thieves, please forgive me Satguru ji for the bad thoughts."